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		<title>Davide.poletto at 14:27, 9 March 2013</title>
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				<updated>2013-03-09T14:27:15Z</updated>
		
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				&lt;td colspan='2' style=&quot;background-color: white; color:black; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan='2' style=&quot;background-color: white; color:black; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 14:27, 9 March 2013&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l3&quot; &gt;Line 3:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;you wrote &amp;quot;''Updated Compartibility Matrix to only list System/Application versions that are still in Support. OpenStage HFA Version only lists version currently available on SWS.''&amp;quot; as a side note of your very recent page alterations on [http://wiki.siemens-enterprise.com/wiki/OpenStage_HFA_interoperability_matrix OpenStage HFA Interoperability Matrix].&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;you wrote &amp;quot;''Updated Compartibility Matrix to only list System/Application versions that are still in Support. OpenStage HFA Version only lists version currently available on SWS.''&amp;quot; as a side note of your very recent page alterations on [http://wiki.siemens-enterprise.com/wiki/OpenStage_HFA_interoperability_matrix OpenStage HFA Interoperability Matrix].&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I have to say I disagree about your changes. Mainly because, IMHO, this wiki should not exactly &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;reflects &lt;/del&gt;what's the actual state of &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;SWS &lt;/del&gt;published software nor &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;it &lt;/del&gt;should easily &amp;quot;forget&amp;quot; &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;about &lt;/del&gt;the history of a products/applications (read: delete every trace of it as it was never existed at all).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I have to say I disagree about your changes. Mainly because, IMHO, this wiki should not &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;/ins&gt;exactly &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;reflect&amp;quot; &lt;/ins&gt;what's the actual state &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;(reported or not by the SWS server) &lt;/ins&gt;of published software&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;/products/applications &lt;/ins&gt;nor &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;this wiki &lt;/ins&gt;should easily &amp;quot;forget&amp;quot; &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;(by deletion) &lt;/ins&gt;the history of a &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;given &lt;/ins&gt;products/applications (read: delete every trace of it as it was never existed&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;/used/installed/developed &lt;/ins&gt;at all).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;There are a lot of customers/users/experts that use/know/have older systems/applications (you can call them unsupported but the truth is that not all of them are in this declared state right now) and &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;finding &lt;/del&gt;a coherent source of &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;informations &lt;/del&gt;about them is still very important.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;There are a lot of customers/users/experts that use/know/have older systems/applications (you can call them unsupported but the truth is that not all of them are in this declared state&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;, &lt;/ins&gt;right now) and &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;for those to find &lt;/ins&gt;a coherent source of &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;information &lt;/ins&gt;about them is still very important.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;So why not simply and intelligently move (other than deleting it) all the references of older products/applications' versions in another spaces/pages and then link those spaces/pages to the ones you consider the only one that deservers constant updates?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;So why not simply and intelligently move (other than deleting it) all the references of older products/applications' versions in another spaces/pages and then link those spaces/pages to the ones you consider the only one that deservers constant updates?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;In general&lt;/del&gt;: is this still a Wiki website or is this Wiki website becoming (more or less) just a fashion shop's window? ...for which old dresses are trashed away (=no memory of the past) without any for or reasoning to simply make room, day by day, only to newer ones (=take care only of the present)?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;An important generic question&lt;/ins&gt;: is this still a &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Siemens Enterprise &lt;/ins&gt;Wiki website &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;a Wiki &lt;/ins&gt;or is this &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Siemens Enterprise &lt;/ins&gt;Wiki website becoming (more or less) just &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;like &lt;/ins&gt;a fashion shop's window? ...for which old dresses are trashed away (=no memory of the past) without any for or reasoning to simply make room, day by day, only to newer ones (=take care only of the present)?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Before deleting a piece of information we should understand that is more important to learn the informations given, eventually fix them and/or update them. Don't destroy by cleaning...just start to create which is more difficult.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Before deleting a piece of information we should understand that is more important to learn the informations given, eventually fix them and/or update them. Don't destroy by cleaning...just start to create which is more difficult.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Davide.poletto: An opinion.</title>
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				<updated>2013-03-09T14:22:46Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;An opinion.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Hello Krutzger,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
you wrote &amp;quot;''Updated Compartibility Matrix to only list System/Application versions that are still in Support. OpenStage HFA Version only lists version currently available on SWS.''&amp;quot; as a side note of your very recent page alterations on [http://wiki.siemens-enterprise.com/wiki/OpenStage_HFA_interoperability_matrix OpenStage HFA Interoperability Matrix].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I have to say I disagree about your changes. Mainly because, IMHO, this wiki should not exactly reflects what's the actual state of SWS published software nor it should easily &amp;quot;forget&amp;quot; about the history of a products/applications (read: delete every trace of it as it was never existed at all).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are a lot of customers/users/experts that use/know/have older systems/applications (you can call them unsupported but the truth is that not all of them are in this declared state right now) and finding a coherent source of informations about them is still very important.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So why not simply and intelligently move (other than deleting it) all the references of older products/applications' versions in another spaces/pages and then link those spaces/pages to the ones you consider the only one that deservers constant updates?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In general: is this still a Wiki website or is this Wiki website becoming (more or less) just a fashion shop's window? ...for which old dresses are trashed away (=no memory of the past) without any for or reasoning to simply make room, day by day, only to newer ones (=take care only of the present)?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Before deleting a piece of information we should understand that is more important to learn the informations given, eventually fix them and/or update them. Don't destroy by cleaning...just start to create which is more difficult.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What's your (or the one of Siemens Wiki website's board of responsible) opinion on that behaviour?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
IMHO, is very important to understand what are the underneath rules governing this Wiki...because your answer could then force you (and the Experts too) to think about what exactly both &amp;quot;Experts Wiki&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Wiki&amp;quot; words mean really now here.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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